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Richard Spry HOWES
griffo
[mail]Hi There,

I'm trying to locate information on my Paternal Great-Grandfather Richard Spry HOWES. I recently found this on GENUKI site UK & Ireland Genealogy Merchant Marine British Coast Guards 184-1901.
It states:
Richard L HOWES or HOWSE b: 1857 Launceston Cornwall [which is correct apart from the L]
1881 Wife Martha & family were at Cawsand Rame Cornwall RG 11/2279/94. I don't know what the numbers refer to.
Richard was absent 1891 Salcombe Regis
1901 Budleigh Salterton Devon

Wife Martha b:1854 or 1856 Tywardreath Cornwall
Children:
Mary E 1878 & John J 1879 Camborne Cornwall
George R, Bertha b: 1880-1881 Cawsand Cornwall
William R b:1889 Hope Cove Devon
Kate b:1893 Sidmouth Devon

I've found it frustrating trying to research this branch of my tree. Richard 1st married Mary Ellen SHEER in the March Qtr 1875 at Lanlivery their 1st child my paternal grandmother was baptised on 31 October 1877 at Trelowarren Street Camborne. I think Mary Ellen senior may have died as a result of the birth as I've picked up a death registration Dec Qtr 1877 for Mary Ellen HOWES and I can locate no further children to the marriage.

The only marriage I can find for Richard Spry HOWES is on 11 June 1888 at the Registry Office Redruth Cornwall to a Martha HARVEY.

Mary Ellen's SHEER's next youngest sister was Martha SHEER b: abt 1854 at Tywardreath the same year & place as Richard's 2nd wife and Martha SHEER had married from memory I think his christian name was John? HARVEY.

I'm starting to think that Martha HARVEY & Martha SHEER are one in the same. There's a lot of similarities on the marriage certificate. There are however some problems if they are. It states Richard Spry HOWES 30 Bachelor [not Widower] Blacksmith. I think he tried his hand at a lot of occupations residence was Trelowarren Street Camborne which I think is where Mary Ellen HOWES his daughter was born?. Father George [deceased] Carrier. I know from his 1915 death certificate that his father was George, but I'm waiting on his birth certificate to arrive to get occupation & mothers name.
It's mostly on Martha's details (that's if I have the right person) she's 31 a spinster [not widow] residence Trelowarren Street Camborne father is Robert HARVEY [deceased] Miner. Mary Ellen SHEER's father was Robert SHEER who was also deceased by 1888 and had also been a Miner. The witnesses were Emma HOLMAN, Mary Ellen SHEER has a younger sister Emma and I think it's H J HOLMAN. I haven't been able to locate a marriage between SHEER & HOLMAN. I also can't find a death registration Martha Sheer's 1st husband John? HARVEY

Richard Spry HOWES died 28 Nov 1915 at 4 Egremont Road Withycombe Raleigh Exmouth he was 58 a House Painter Journeyman what ever that is and his youngest daughter Kate was present at the time of death.

I'm trying to work out where the SPRY part of the name came into it. My father also had it as his second name. He was killed when I was 7 I'd asked my mother about dad's unusual middle namebefore she died and she said it came from his grandparents. So far the Surname SPRY hasn't come into the tree yet.

& also my paternal grandmother Mary Ellen GRIFFITHS nee:HOWES apparently liked to tell people she was descended from the Dogs of Devon. Can anyone shed some light on what she may have been refering to and some light on this elusive branch of my family

Happy Days,
John Griffiths
ShockNewcastle NSW Oz
 
crimea1854
Hi John and welcome to the Forum.

First the bad news, there is a gap in the Coastguard Records for the period you are interested in. However, read on all is not lost!

On the ref RG/11 etc., this relates to the National Census document for 1881.

Now for the good news. If you follow the link below it will take you to the NA, and Richard Spry Howes naval service record, which can be downloaded for a small fee. In addition it looks as if a son Richard may have followed him into the RN/CG.
Unfortunately, while this will provide details of their service, there is no family information contained on these documents.

http://www.nation...5Fdate+asc

Re the 'Dogs of Devon' this may refer to the 'Sea-Dogs of Devon', who were privateers and the scourge of the Spanish during Queen Elizabeth I reign. The most famous of these Sea-Dogs being Sir Francis Drake.

Regards

Martin
Edited by crimea1854 on 18/05/2009 14:01
 
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