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HMS Racehorse-Irish Coastgaurd
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| bloconnell |
Posted on 25/02/2012 17:03
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My gt gt Grandfather, Bartholomew Connell served on HMS Racehorse, leaving in 1842. He then went on to Knockallow and then Buncrana, Donegal Does anyone know anything about HMS Racehorse and why do you think he was sent to Donegal when the family came from Cork [certainly his son lived in Cork]. Hope someone can help. Many thanks Barbara O'Connell |
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| crimea1854 |
Posted on 26/02/2012 14:23
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Welcome to the Forum Barbara. HMS Racehorse was an 18 gun sloop that spent a good deal of her early career in the Caribbean, and was only broken-up in 1901, with the last years being spent as a coal hulk in Devonport. You might not be aware that Bartholomew was one of the 2600 CG's who saw active service with the Royal Navy during the Crimean War. He served on HMS Prince Regent in the Baltic, and HMS Royal Albert in the Black Sea. He was awarded the Baltic Medal, Crimea Medal with Sebastopol clasp, and the Turkish Crimea Medal. There was no real reason, other than a vacancy existed in Knockallow, why he was posted there than to Cork. However, I have noticed that as men neared the end of their service they are sometimes moved nearer their home town. Martin |
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| bloconnell |
Posted on 26/02/2012 16:30
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Thank you so much Martin. I know very little about Bartholomew Connell, other than having discovered on his sons marriage certificate that he was an Officer in the Coastguards. I have researched the national archives ADM 175 and found out bits and pieces , but I would be very grateful for any further information that you have or advice on where to look for it. Many thanks again Barbara |
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| crimea1854 |
Posted on 26/02/2012 17:40
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The ADM 175 records are the way to trace his career. If it is of any help he is on ADM 175/52 pdf 134. This shows that he was born on 3 May 1814, Queenstown, Cork. Let me know if you have a problem tracing him, and I will see what I can put together. Martin |
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| bloconnell |
Posted on 27/02/2012 10:51
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Again, thankyou so much Martin. That is amazing. I would never have looked at a file marked Frederick William as it means nothing to me, but it means everthing to find Batholomew's date and place of birth. Do you know where to find any pension records that would give me a name of next of kin ie: a wife? Hope you can help once more but I am extremely grateful for the help you have given me so far. Barbara |
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| crimea1854 |
Posted on 27/02/2012 14:56
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Barbara I'm afraid the naval records have very little information about next of kin. If you could get to the National Archives at Kew it would be worth checking HMS Racehorse's Ships Description Book (ADM 38/8803). This would provide a physical description of your man, a list of his previous ships, usual place of residence and his marital status. If it were to turn out that he was married it would be worth checking the Allotment Books for HMS Racehorse in ADM 27. These note the names of next of kin to whom some of his pay should be sent while he was at sea. Not every man used this system, but still worth a look, you might get lucky! Martin |
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| bloconnell |
Posted on 27/02/2012 17:35
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I can't thank you enough Martin for all your help. Will follow up the leads you have given me. Regards Barbara |
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| thomas f ryan |
Posted on 27/02/2012 17:41
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Thank you both for the information you have posted to date. I am currently researching a possible familly connection born Cork 1810, joined UK Navy 1833 served on Racehorse in 1840s. I have his Naval record which is most interesting. Maybe both men served on the same ship at the same time. Also you can read about the ships description at www.pbenyon.plus.com/18-1900/R/03758.html and also ageofnelson.org let me know how you get on please Tom |
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| bloconnell |
Posted on 28/02/2012 09:16
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Thanks Tom - those sites are very interesting especially the pbenyon site telling you exactly where HMS Racehorse was. I notice when Bartholomew Connell left HMS racehorse he is decribed as Barthw. Connell PB. Do you know what the PB stands for? Barbara |
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| crimea1854 |
Posted on 28/02/2012 15:43
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Barbara I don't know what document you have looked at, but I suspect that you have misread a 'P' for an 'S'. SB indicates that he was entered as a 'Seamen Boatman' eligible for sea service, as opposed to 'CB' or 'Civilian Boatman'. Martin |
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| bloconnell |
Posted on 28/02/2012 16:43
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Yes , that looks right. A fancy S mistaken for a P Thank you once more. Barbara |
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