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Coastguards in Kingstown, Dublin 1870
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| Gilder1 |
Posted on 21/03/2010 08:02
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Hi I am a new user of this site and I joined because I was impressed with the information you have here. I am researching my family tree (aren't we all these days!), and have found out that my Gt-Grandfather Richard Miller, born in 1841 in Dovercourt, Harwich, Essex, joined the Royal Navy in 1861 and was a coastguard in Kingstown, Dublin from 1870 (maybe earlier) to 1876 when he returned to England and took up a post at Holdenhurst, Bournemouth. I have a copy of his marriage certificate which shows he married on Jan 20th 1870, at the Parish Church of Monkstown, Dublin, to Caroline Nicholls. Her Father is listed as Peter Nicholls and his occupation was also a coastguard. Which explains how they met. Caroline's place of birth is shown as Ballycotton, in 1851, on later records I have. They had 4 children in whilst in Ireland all were born in Kingstown. I would really like to find out how long he worked in Kingstown and where he lived. Thanks in advance for any info you can give me ..... Jo |
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| bpa |
Posted on 21/03/2010 12:14
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To find where Richard Miller lived - it is sometimes recorded on baptism records. From tracking my relative using baptism records, he rented close to the station and sometimes moved more than once for the same station. In Kingstown, I know of a coastguard who stayed in Mellifont Ave. Kingstown. Using baptism records for S. Dublin (http://dublinsout...ealogy.com ), between 1870-1890 there were 5 children baptised in the Mariner's Church Kingstown (C. of I.) whose father's first name was Richard. If Richard was in Kingstown between 1870 and 1876 then they are a good match. 1870 Emily Sarah 1871 Elizabeth Love 1874 Caroline Anne 1875 William Peter 1876 Florence You could buy these records and check the mother's name and see if there are address details. FYI - The Mariner's church is now a Maritime Museum http://www.marine...ge_id=1151 Edited by bpa on 21/03/2010 12:14 |
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| Tony |
Posted on 21/03/2010 12:36
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Regarding the Maritime Church Museum, only this week have I heard that the reconstruction work on the museum is nearly at an end and it is hoped that the musum will reopen in the autumn. This is great news for Maritime researchers and also the general public who want to revisit this wonderful Church building. Tony |
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| bpa |
Posted on 21/03/2010 13:27
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I checked ADM 175-43. It looks like Richard Miller (born Dovercourt Essex 27 Sept 1838) posted Kingstown 31 Dec 1869 and removed to Swanage 13 Dec 1876. This matches very well with baptism records. In same book Peter Nicholls (born Scilly Islands. 17 Nov 1812) in Kingstown pensioned 13 Aug 1870. Good news about Maritime Museum as it is a interesting place. Last time I was there, it was just before it closed and in a storm I think a tree had come through one of the main stained glass windows. I have a copy of his marriage certificate which shows he married on Jan 20th 1870, at the Parish Church of Monkstown, Dublin, I suspect the marriage was in the Parish of Monkstown rather than the Parish Church. Around 1860 the Parish of Monkstown was large and included amongst other places Blackrock, Newtown, Monkstown, Kingstown and Bullock. Edited by bpa on 21/03/2010 13:35 |
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| Gilder1 |
Posted on 22/03/2010 17:44
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Wow.. Thanks so much for replying. I knew about Emily, Elizabeth, Caroline and William, but not about Florence, as only Emily, Elizabeth and William came back to England. Thanks for tip about info on baptism records I didn't know that. I received a copy of Richard and Caroline's marriage certificate yesterday so I confirm that's the right Richard, married on Jan 20th 1870. Thanks for his record dates. Thanks also for info on Maritime Church Museum. Everything has been really useful and helps me put a couple more pieces of the 'jigsaw' in place. Cheers everyone and Thanks again.... Jo |
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| bpa |
Posted on 22/03/2010 18:13
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It's possible Florence died v. young - in the GRO index there is an 1876 death record for a Florence Miller who was born in 1876 in the Rathdown registration areas which includes Kingstown. The GRO index can be searched here - just limit the location to Ireland and the collection in the results to Ireland. http://pilot.fami...tml#p=home Edited by bpa on 22/03/2010 18:14 |
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| crimea1854 |
Posted on 26/03/2010 08:02
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Jo you have not asked for any info on Peter Nicholls, but if you are currently working on your family tree the following service history might be of interest. Nicholls entered the CG Service on 16 October 1839 from the Revenue Cruiser Dove, being posted to Lyme Cobb CGS. To find out more of his career on Dove you would need to consult her Muster Book held at the National Archives as part of the ADM 119 series. On 3 April 1840 he was transferred to Axmouth, where he remained until 8 Dec 1847 when he was again removed to Brixham. I checked the 1841 Census and frustratingly all of the rest of the men at the station can be found, but he is missing!! His next move was to Dartmouth on 28 Oct 1848, from where on the 5 Feb 1850 he was posted to Ireland, and the Ballycotton CGS, following his promotion to Commisioned Boatman. On 30 May 1855 he was moved to Knockadoon, then on 31 May 1867 to Kingstown where he appears to have remained until his retirement. Regards Martin Edited by crimea1854 on 26/03/2010 08:05 |
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| Gilder1 |
Posted on 31/03/2010 21:40
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Hi Crimea1854 Thanks for finding out about peter Nicholls for me. Yes, I am doing my family tree but a complete novice when it comes to searching records. The info about his career is really interesting as Caroline, his daughter was born in Ballycotton in abt 1851. So, this probably means that she is Irish by birth but English as far as her parents are concerned as Peter was probably married here and took his wife with him, now I have an idea of who I'm looking for. The connection to the Scilly Isles is amazing because in my late Aunt's address book, Caroline's sister Emily Louisa lived in the Scilly Isles and I wondered why she went there. Now I know, she probably had family there! I am intrigued by your user name as I also have a Gt-Gt-Uncle born in 1834 who served in the 62nd Regiment (known as the Wiltshires) in the Crimean war. We have a bible given to him in December 1855 by the Chaplain at 'Camp before Sebastopol'. He died a year later in Salisbury from his wounds aged 22. |
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| crimea1854 |
Posted on 01/04/2010 08:02
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Hi Jo My user name stems from the fact that I collect Crimea and Baltic medals to men who served in the RN, I also have a particular interest in those CG men who were recalled for service during the Crimean War. Martin |
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| Gilder1 |
Posted on 01/04/2010 14:06
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Hi I thought that was the case. I'm enjoying history second time around as I read up on every fact & every place I find. Wish I had the internet when I was at school!! Thanks for your help. Regards Jo |
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