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 Frederick Henry Walter Ashmore
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| Geminoz |
Posted on 28/07/2009 16:17
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I am hoping someone can help me find records of births of children of Frederick Ashmore. I have located him on the 1901 census as being in Wicklow Ref 44/28. I know he had a daughter born in Wicklow in 1903, and he had another daughter born at Port Kinnigoe in 1905. I know there were 2 sons born in 1902, but can't confirm their place of birth or the place of the births of his other children. Is there a record anywhere for births of the children of coastguard officers. Hoping you can help me Regards  |
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| crimea1854 |
Posted on 28/07/2009 18:34
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Hi Geminoz The only records I know of that have details of the births of children to CG men are those for men serving between 1900 -1923(?). These are in the ADM 175 series around the 83 or 84 mark, that are organised alphabetically. Unfortunately these records don't appear to be currently available, unless you have found them somewhere on the National Archives website? However, I have always been singularly unsuccessful in finding men when I've looked, but someone has to be! If your man is there, it only records the sex of the child (M/F) and a date of birth, but it also has details of the man's service history, from which you can work out where the child was likely to have been born. Regards Martin |
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| Geminoz |
Posted on 29/07/2009 00:50
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Hello Martin Thank you for that information. I will follow it up. I did have some success downloading the Coastguard books for the 1901 1911 census. I found my man listed in the 1901 census with his wife and 4 of their children, but the particular child I am looking for, and others born later are are not listed. There is no mention of the family in 1911 census, so I think he must have left Ireland and gone to Scotland somewhere between those years. I know he was a customs and excise officer in Scotland in 1923, and that he died in Glasgow 1925. Many thanks again Geminoz |
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| crimea1854 |
Posted on 29/07/2009 12:49
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Hi As I've said on another post, I have managed to find the link to the CG records on the NA website. However, having checked the recordsI was suggesting may provide the answer to your question (ADM175/82A), there was no record for your man, so yet again I have been unlucky with these particular records  Martin |
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| Geminoz |
Posted on 29/07/2009 13:34
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Again thank you for your efforts Martin. I have downloaded and looked through all the Coastguard books for the 1901 and 1911 census, hoping to place him still in Ireland in 1911, but no luck. Do you know if the Scottish Coastguard has a site similar to yours? I have been looking but no luck so far. Regards Geminoz Did Coastguard's chldren attend particular schools? |
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| crimea1854 |
Posted on 29/07/2009 15:08
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Hi I don't know if you have already picked up on this, but another Member (Freda Murphy) is also researching Frederick Ashmore - could she have some of the answers to your questions? Unfortunately this site is generally restricted to CG who served in and around the coast of Ireland, although because CG men moved around so much it does not mean that because the only record of him is serving in England he did not come to Ireland at some point in his career. I'm not aware of any site specifically devoted to Scottish CG men, and the GENUKI site only picks up men from the English census records. Regards Martin |
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| Geminoz |
Posted on 29/07/2009 15:23
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Hi again Martin Oh he was in Ireland in 1901. He is on the census list as being in station Ardinary Wicklow . Ref 44/28. He also had a daughter born there in 1903 and a son born in 1902 (Leonard Alexander,not sure where but would assume it was wicklow since the daughter was born there in 1903) and a daughter born in Port Kinnigoe in 1905, but from then I have lost track of him. I do know he was in Scotland in 1923 and he died in Glasgow in 1925. I was not aware of someone else tracing him. I will try to make contact and see if we can share information. I might add I am having a wonderful time poking around this great site and learning a lot along the way. Thank you again Kind Regards Geminoz |
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| Tony |
Posted on 29/07/2009 19:25
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Hi Geminoz, As the many Coastguard stations in Ireland were sited on remote headlands it was usual for children to go to the nearest school to them. It was common for children in remote ares until ithe beginning of the Twentieth century to go barefoot across the fields and along the roads. In the West of Ireland I heard mention of some children going together to school in a small donkey and cart. The donkey would be tied to a hedge and remain till the school session was over. In poor areas children were expected to bring a sod of turf each day to school to heat the classroom. The local shools had a sunken sink full of water in the floor at the entrance door to enable children to wash their feet as they arrived. In some of the stations the wife of a Coastguard might take it upon herself to teach the children at the station. Regards Tony |
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| Geminoz |
Posted on 30/07/2009 07:15
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Thank you Tony for that very interesting insight into the lives of the children. I would like to thank everyone who has responded to my queries, and to Martin for putting me on to another member researching my Frederick Henry Ashmore. We have been in touch via email and not only have my questions been answered, but it looks as though a family mystery has been solved as well. We are still unravelling the information so we could update at a later time. In the meantime thank you all so very very much. Kind regards Geminoz  
Edited by Geminoz on 30/07/2009 07:18 |
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| Geminoz |
Posted on 28/04/2010 08:46
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A quick update on Frederick Henry Walter Ashmore. Thanks to this forum putting me in touch with another family member, we have now discovered long-lost family in England and Australia, as well as a branch of the family we were not even aware of in Canada. Many, many thanks again |
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